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From Stigma To Sisterhood: Building Tribes That Scale
What does real leadership look like when you strip away the optics and keep the heartbeat? In this episode of the CMC Media Women’s Panel series, Miranda Johnson and Yasmine Gardiner sit down for an honest, energizing conversation about women leading with purpose—building tribes that empower, scaling without burnout, and defining legacy on their own terms.
Miranda Johnson, founder and CEO of Mirajo Collective (https://www.mirajoco.org), brings 25 years of experience in construction, real estate, logistics, and corporate travel. A proud mother of five daughters, she now helps entrepreneurs find community, clarity, and confidence through authenticity. As Lead Ambassador of the Tampa Business Club, Miranda teaches that true success starts with self-awareness—“authenticity is the new blue check.”
Yasmine Gardiner, a two-time tech founder and CEO of ClearSet.AI (https://www.clearset.ai) and DataScrubber.AI, merges AI innovation with human insight. A senior data scientist and community leader, she has worked with organizations including Accenture, NTT Data, and the U.S. Department of Defense. Currently Director of Data Science at Electus Global Education, Yasmine is redefining what tech leadership looks like—collaboration over competition, empathy over ego, and results rooted in resilience.
Together, they challenge the pressure on women to “prove it,” debunk myths about emotion in leadership, and unpack the art of protecting your peace while growing your impact. Expect candid stories about choosing your tribe, mastering money mindset, scaling with systems, and teaching emotional intelligence to the next generation.
If you’re ready to trade spectacle for substance and build something that lasts, this episode is for you.
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Miranda Johnson — https://www.mirajoco.org | LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/miranda-johnson
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Hello, I'm Yasmin Gartner. I am the founder and CEO of ClearSet.ai and datascrubber.ai. I'm originally from Tampa, Florida, but my family were from the beautiful islands of the Turksacaicas Islands and the Bahamas. I have worked at large firms such as Accenture, CFPB, NTT Data, and US SOCOM as a senior data scientist, lead data engineer, and business intelligence analyst. If you would like to get in touch with me, please visit our website at www.clearset.ai or www.datascrubber.ai. And if you want to follow me on social media, please follow me on LinkedIn at Yasmin Gartner. And if you want to stay up to date with my fashion styling as well as my charisma and humor, please follow me on Instagram at Ygartner underscore. Thank you, everyone.
SPEAKER_04:Hi, my name is Miranda Johnson. I am originally from Charleston, South Carolina, and currently reside in St. Petersburg, Florida. My slogan, my model is authenticity is the new blue check. I've been an entrepreneur for over 25 years. That's all I know is entrepreneurship. And what I'm working towards now is Mirageo Collective. Mirageo Collective is a collaborative business network that teaches entrepreneurs and those who just have an idea, maybe even before they've started, that if they collaborate together, if they touch each other and move together, they scale. And how you find us is by going to www.mirajoco.org. Welcome and thank you for tuning in for the first annual CMC Media and Advocacy Woman panel. I'm your host, Miranda Johnson, here with Yasmin Gardner. Yasmin, got a question for you. What's going on? What made you join this panel if a woman was president?
SPEAKER_03:Oh, so what made me join this panel uh if a woman was president was because I want us to have a deeper dive, if we were a president. I feel like a lot of women have that presidential mindset, you know, being organized, being authentic, being uh disciplined, and also really upholding integrity. So imagine we had a conversation if that time was to come of being a president who was a woman.
SPEAKER_04:So I hear you seeing all these different characteristics of a woman being president. And of course, myself, I'm a mother. I'm a wife, I have other responsibilities. So a lot of times people say, Well, how could you be a woman president with all these other things that are pulling on you? Um, you as a young woman, single, amazing, beautiful out here, do you think that those areas can hinder a woman from becoming president?
SPEAKER_03:I don't think so. If anything, it just shows that we can be capable of handling all those different tasks, responsibilities, and do it very well and gracefully as well. I mean, like you said, you're a mom, you're a wife. I'm not, but I do have friends who are moms and wives, and just seeing the way they handle everything and even being a full-time work uh professional or business owner, it's just very amazing to see how we can come together, organize our life, balance it, and still be able to show up professionally and beautifully as well.
SPEAKER_04:I love how you talk about it's layers, and we work together, so it's amazing we show up together. So to see it doesn't matter what's going on in the background, we always show up. So I'm excited about having you as a part of this. Um, I definitely believe that that time is coming, that day is coming, and no matter who it is, whether it's you or me, it's gonna be an amazing time. So, of course, there's stigmas that are out there. Um, I think the early in the show, let's go ahead and just address them.
SPEAKER_05:Okay.
SPEAKER_04:Um, so is the pressure for women leaders to prove themselves? I know, take a breath. Greater for women or for men?
SPEAKER_03:Oh, it's definitely greater for women.
SPEAKER_04:Okay.
SPEAKER_03:And I say that because I believe it comes from that stigma or that ideology where it's like women are emotional, so we just make these hasty decisions based on emotions, which I really think it just comes from us being very logical. Like I said, we balance so much, we have to uphold society standards of what a woman's supposed to be, or even what beauty's supposed to be. And so I feel as though a lot it adds a lot of pressure to us to show, hey, we are good enough, I can do this. And I feel as though that that makes it really, really tough on us to want to do more and show more because we have to force ourselves to show that we can do it when we know generally we can do it.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, I I I definitely I will say for myself, I was in the transportation industry many years and in construction. So in those industries, of course, I had to go in and prove that I was knowledgeable enough to handle a man's job, right? Right. Um, and also that I could still balance home and balance those things. And I feel like it was like maybe she can't do it, maybe that's too much. You know, if I had a moment of tears, because you know I like to cry.
SPEAKER_03:It's okay to cry.
SPEAKER_01:But I like to cry.
SPEAKER_04:Um, and I've cried in front of men before, yeah, but I will say this times have changed. Um, and I I love working with men because now I'm seeing men being more in tune and more understanding with what women go through because they are also becoming single fathers, they're also being taking care of their elderly parents, they're seeing what it goes through. So they have so much to do on their on their side. I feel like they're now understanding. So I really love what's happening and the shift that's happening because I feel like I cry and they don't look at me as weak.
SPEAKER_03:Exactly. It's not a weak trait. I mean, you have to let it out. Right. If you don't let it out, it builds up, and then only God knows what that buildup can lead to, you know, and it's some kind of negative situation or negative outburst, whatever the case may be. So being able to let it out in that healthy capacity also requires the tribe you're in as well, too, to say, hey, it's okay. I trust you, and I just want to let it out. And I'm glad that we're all starting to see that it's okay to have emotions. I mean, it's it's healthy. Let it out in the most healthiest way around people who you can trust.
SPEAKER_04:All right, you just said the tribe word. Yes, you know you said my magic word because it's all about the tribe, right? It really is about who you hang around, who you speak to. You and I, we get on the phone. How long of the conversation?
SPEAKER_03:Like two, three hours. And most of the time you're like driving. I'm like, where is she going? Is she driving to Miami or something?
SPEAKER_04:Sometimes, sometimes, I mean, I'm you know, I like to drive. Drive is my where I have my my mental peace. Um, but you are a part of my tribe. You, you and a couple other people. I know, right? I announced it it's online.
SPEAKER_03:She said it, she said it guys is a part of my tribe.
SPEAKER_04:Um you're that you're that uh intellectual part when I want to, okay, let's think this through. And also, you know, we have a couple years' difference in age. Was it like two years?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. No, I love it online.
SPEAKER_04:No, it's about two years. Could you tell? No. We're about 15 years difference in age. It's okay though. I love that. I know because I get to learn from you, I get to see the younger, what the younger version of what woman, what femininity looks like today. So I love it to be able to see that and then from my from where I'm where I'm at, to see uh where I could things that I could be better at.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:So I it's I feel like that it offers some balance. So for me, it's great. So you are a part of my tribe.
SPEAKER_03:So now that you're not and you are part of mine as well, too, because I look up to you because even though you are older, you've gone through so much, whether that's business, love, life, friendship, all that stuff, and I get to learn from that to say, hey, let me do better. And you know, me being very accountable and just love learning. Um, I feel as though hearing, you know, what you've gone through has really helped with wisdom to say, nope, let me stop and think because I can be impulsive, but only because I didn't have much growing up to learn. Um, so I do really do look up to you and always been gravitated to you and just wanted to learn more from you.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, this dialogue mushy. Okay, then let's get real. Let's talk about when it didn't go well, right? There was a time in this tribe we didn't agree. We it was others that you know, because that's what happens in tribes that people don't realize um when you're having these type of conversations when you're talking about proving yourself. There's another part of proving yourself is sometimes you step on toes. Um, and stepping on toes sometimes happens with others coming in, sometimes it happens with just your own feelings in the moment of making assumptions, yeah, right? You don't know do they like me, do they not like me? And we've had those moments where we're like, are we okay? Yes, we are okay. Um and let's just be honest, sometimes it's not it's not always a smile. No, there's sometimes there are disagreements, but there's a key thing, and I I think you would agree to this, it's the core. If I know your core well enough, and I know you are at your core, I can trust that and leave it there. Right. So even if we have a disagreement, even if we don't like each other in that moment or in that second, I can go back to the core of Yasmin and say, you know what, that's not her. And then I can ride with that, unless you prove me otherwise.
SPEAKER_03:Right, correct. And I feel as though that also comes with us being able to know we're both honest people and then say, hey, we're honest enough to have these hard conversations. Yes. And I think that's what's missing and in some friendships and relationships nowadays is that you have to have that hard conversation. You have to say, hey, this bothers me, or hey, I don't like what you did here. That goes against what I believe in. So let's have a conversation and let's get to the root cause of it. Right. So now you know that these are my boundaries, and um, I know not to cross those boundaries. So it's it's really so you have to be honest, which goes back to the emotions. Be honest with your emotions. And and if you know that person to the core, you should know, hey, I can go to that person, I just have to soak it up. Let me read, let me um communicate, you know, to them and say, hey, this bothers me, but then also let me practice articulating my words so that it does make sense. Right. Um, but either way, you gotta have those hard and honest conversations to keep growing. Yeah, how do you know somebody?
SPEAKER_04:Right. You I mean, and that leads to my next question is we hear about the boys' club. Everyone talks about the good old boys club, whether it be through fraternities or different jobs or things. We always hear about it, whether they played sports together. What does the women's club look like? What does it look like for women to have what do our groups look like? What would you say they look like?
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SPEAKER_03:I would say some groups will look like as if they're trying to compete with each other. Um, and I think that's very devastating because I tell people all the time, there's so much money out there. We all need to come together as a union. I see myself as a union, I come across other AI companies, other AI brands, IT companies. We're all doing the same thing. And I have not once said, oh my gosh, I'm threatened. If anything, I'm like, how can we work together? How can I learn from you? Let's become a union, let's let's bring in different, you know, networks and all this stuff together, let's collaborate. And I just want them to see it's not a competition. Don't gossip because you know they see them on their downs, their down season, you know, uplift each other and just help, you know, because it could be you at that moment too. So I really just hope that we can really see the us being unions and celebrating and coming together and saying, hey, we might be in the same field, but you have this attribute that I don't have. You have that attribute or characteristic that I don't have. So let's learn from each other, and then you never know what that's going to come about.
SPEAKER_04:I like calling it like finding each other's superpower. Yeah. Because I feel like we all have a different superpower, and it's like watching the Power Rangers, you know, the green one, the pink one, and they all kind of come together and as a different power, you know, you put your little force fields, you know. And it's like if I have if I can get a little bit of your superpower and you can find some of mine, how powerful can we be together to fight whatever that is compared to fighting each other?
SPEAKER_05:Right.
SPEAKER_04:Um, but and I also know that you're being nice and kind. So I'm gonna go a little deeper with the with the boys' club of what our girls' clubs can look like. Of course. Um, it can look like for for and in business, specifically in business for me, it can look like for black women only, it can look like for a Latino woman only, it can look like for this age group and not that age group. I feel like women are really, really good with really dividing the lines very heavily, um, which can in business cause them to miss out. Because in business, there's no race, there's no age, it's just men. Um, and it's understanding, and you need and and taking men out of the equation is so dangerous. And we do a lot of women only. So there's times where it works and it makes sense, and then there's times where it can be, it can affect you. So for me, I see the clicks when we start adding race on business groups. Um, I know they may not like that. That's Miranda. That's where I believe in collaboration. I push the boundaries of collaboration. Yeah, so I work with all races, I work with all genders, I love working with younger, older. Believe it or not, I actually have people in this in the seniors in business because there's so much wealth and knowledge that you get from people, even if it's they didn't do social media, there's so much things that they can tell you the grassroots way of doing a business. And if you alienate them, you are alienating, alienating a big part of the conversation that understood business before you. So for me, I see the clicks that begin to happen. And within the click is another click of how much money you have. What kind of car are you driving? Where do you shop at? Do you wear a wig? Do you have locks? Do you you know it becomes a beauty competition competition of a click? I know you see it. I know you've been in it.
SPEAKER_03:Yes. Go ahead. Yes, I see the face. Yes, yes, yes. You know, for myself, just being super humble, and I don't know if it's just the way I was raised, because in the islands, we don't care. As long as you have a roof over your head, you're living, you're breathing, you're smiling today, we're happy, we're fine. And so coming into you know, more an environment where they're just so focused on the kind of car you drive, or what does your place look like, how much money? Oh, we're going to this high-end restaurant. For me, I'm just like, listen, I'm driving my my old Honda, and I'm so happy with that because it gets me to where I need to go. And, you know, at least I'm showing up to say, hey, I'm committed to what I'm doing to help the community, to help others, business growing, whatnot. But you should focus that I showed up, you should focus on how I treat you as a friend. Because at the end of the day, you know, there are some people who can't afford their cars, and so you're doing all of that, but you can't afford the car. And I think that's just not fair to judge someone who's driving something that's older because I don't fit in this ideology or this image that we're supposed to have. And I think that image is really stopping a lot of people from being great and even being more authentic. And um, and and even just being humble and just being who I am allows people who does have that wall put it down a little bit to say, you know what, maybe I shouldn't care. Right, maybe it doesn't matter. And I love seeing that side of people because I'm like, yes, you shouldn't matter. Like, this is awesome, right? You feel free, don't you? Um, so I do see that, and I just don't pay attention to it, or I just say, hey, this is not my tribe, and that's okay. I wish y'all the bless.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. So I and I, you know, I'm so glad you said all those things because I remember uh going into real estate and I went and I bought a minivan. And my well, two reasons I have five kids. The other reason why I got a minivan was because I wanted to be able to take my clients around. Yeah. So this is before pre-COVID, where clients were riding the car with you, and I remember reading this post. I have to tell y'all what the post on Facebook said, I don't care how bad life gets, you'll never catch me driving a minivan. And I was like, I am a woman in business and I have a lot of the ego inside of me that wanted to say, you know, a few choice words. Because even though I'm driving this minivan, my minivan is paid for because my business paid for it. Um and there's a and there's a difference of understanding of are you driving something because you want to show the world, you need to make a point, or is your business taking care of that? And even if it's not, even if it's if you're if you're just you got it because somebody passed it down and you got it for free, it doesn't matter how it happened. But at the end of the day, if you're looking at my vehicle, you missed the point. Yeah, you missed the whole point.
SPEAKER_03:Right.
SPEAKER_04:The idea is for you to have a journey in business, and the journey doesn't look like you going and spending a whole bunch of money in the beginning, loans, VCs, any different things that you use to get money, and you use that money to look like something, and then on the other side, when it's time to pull out real cash, you're not capable. So I would rather, which I've had moments, drive that old Mercury table with no power steering. I have one, and be on my journey to wealth than to try to prove something to someone else.
SPEAKER_03:And I feel as though that's very respectful, you know, like people start to see, oh wow, she took her time. She didn't try to be flashy or try to, you know, fit in. She really was so focused on her journey that it's very respectable because you did it the right way, the integrity way. And it's like, man, like the amount of times I get that, I get that because you're like, yeah, it's me, seeing how you were when you first started to now, it's so respectful. And I'm like, this is what I want. I want to be respected. And I'm glad that I'm just being able to show this journey to others and even learning from you, you know, as well, too, to say, you guys, just just do it. Right. And then on top of that, it's some material things, honestly. When the business takes off, then you can afford that big old nice G-Wagon, whatever the case may be. Do what you want. Do what you want, do as you please.
SPEAKER_04:I love it for you.
SPEAKER_03:That's it. Yeah, just show up.
SPEAKER_04:It's not saying take it away. No, it's just saying, and it's not saying times that you can't celebrate yourself. Of course not. Because I always celebrated my wins. Yes. Um, but not for someone else won't.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Um, so how can we dismantle the next to help the next generation, those coming after us to have a a different mindset, a different view, so that they don't get caught up in this in the clicks or and this ideology of what it looks like to be in business or to have an LLC.
SPEAKER_03:I think we need to start being more curious and open-minded as someone. You know, I can look at you and say, okay, Miranda has locks, she has a septum, and her earrings, they're always different, they're always so elaborate. It's I want to learn about her a little bit or just see why she goes for this look. And maybe that gives me a deeper dive of, you know, who she is, her story, and of course, you know, building as time comes. But I feel like we need to be more curious of people. Because we all, you can look at us and say, huh, interesting. Like for me, you don't see it now, but I have over 30 tattoos. So when I am girl. So when I am showing my tattoos, that curiosity of why does she have a chest tattoo? Why is she let me go talk to her? And then you start to see, oh, this person is actually a great person, regardless of what they're driving, regardless of what they have. They're like, this person is great, and that's what we want long-term friendships, long-term relationships. Um, I and I think that's where we need to start doing more, being more curious about each other and just open-minded, you know, and just stop looking on what's on the outside and figure out who is this person. Why are they, you know, I see them all the time, and again, the elaborate airings, it's beautiful. Why do you where do you go shop? Oh, because you go there too. Oh, I need to start going there too, and it starts building that friendship and relationship, and that's where you start to see the five years, the 10 years, 15, 20 years relationships, and that's just longevity. That's what we should be striving for. Longevity, which turns into legacy.
SPEAKER_04:That girl, you said a mouthful. So for you definitely said a mouthful. The I love that because you mentioned collaboration earlier. For to get to collaboration, curiosity must happen, right? And acceptance, yeah, and to be able to say, you may not do exactly what I do, or maybe you do, but maybe you do it differently from a different perspective, right? Right? And for me, you know, I was a military brat. I have two parents, amazing mother and father, who are a little bit of hippies, they won't admit it, you know. My mother was is a pastor, my dad not. Um, no longer, but that's okay, cool. Um, but they allowed me to freely express myself, which you know, I think allowed me to go into entrepreneurship early. Nice. So I'm coming from a very different perspective from maybe somebody who was not was stifled. Maybe someone was told, no, you can't do this. So that the way the barrier is a little different. Um, I also was a young mom, so there's certain things that I may come with with somebody who may say, I don't have any children. But this still it's still, it doesn't mean I can't learn from you and then you can't learn from me. We're just coming from different areas, and I've traveled a different road that I can say, hey, this is what I tried. Right. Maybe you want to try that, and it now allows us to go deeper. And I feel like how to dismantle that is just like you said, it's curiosity, it's definitely acceptance, and it's teaching and also learning at the same time. It is not just going to a younger girl feeling like you're gonna tell her how she should be, you're gonna tell her how she could should dress. I personally do not feel like there's a dress code in business. I I'm just gonna tell you, I don't because I've normally am in yoga pants and sneakers all the time. If they would allow me, I'd do that here. Um, and even when I go out, but to that's my dress code. That's how I feel comfortable. Not that I'm not comfortable here, but I feel like there's we need to get rid of these like monkey suit stereotypes. Oh my gosh. Um, take start going back to listening to what children are saying. I feel like they're pushing barriers. They've already proved us wrong. We told them that TikTok wasn't gonna make them no money. Shame on us. Um, we told them that YouTube wasn't gonna make no money in person. Um we can't we keep telling them that things were not gonna happen, and they have literally in our faces said, watch me. And now we as adults are trying to copy what they did. When I felt like if that was that's the collaboration, that's the dismantling, pay attention to what the younger generation is doing because they are evolving faster than us. So as we evolve and as we look at these groups, go back and say, are your groups listening to the younger generation? Right.
SPEAKER_03:And if they're not, if you're not growing, I need to start listening just a little bit. Because you know, each generation they've gone through, someone was always that that one that was outspoken or stepped out and whatnot. You know, you've seen in the 50s, 60s, you've seen in every different generation. So this is just this generation, and it happens to be social media. So and then the next one is gonna be something different where I'm gonna be like, Well, what the heck is this? Okay, I guess I will learn. Exactly.
SPEAKER_04:And what and what will that be? Who knows? And and so with in saying that, what so that took sacrifice? I'm sure that took that child or that person or that adult to say, I'm gonna go against the grain.
SPEAKER_05:Right.
SPEAKER_04:What's the one sacrifice in your career through your journey that you think you made that that you probably will either never make again or you are are happy with and you're glad you did it. You're scratching your head hard, girl.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, y'all, please keep your nine to five. Oh yeah. So it's funny enough because I didn't like quit my nine to five. I actually got laid off. Yeah, and so during that time I said, okay, maybe this is God telling me go, maybe this is God telling me go full time and see how it works out. Man, I did that and I said, let me go back to nine to five because that stability was just so much needed, but I was still growing my business at the same time, too. So even and I understand that the job market in today's society is just very um difficult to try to find a job, but entrepreneur can also be Uber, Lyft, whatever you can find to gain that stability. Please find a full-time stability, and then while you're growing your side until that becomes your stability, but don't lose the passion because you have to go that route. You have to eat, you have to take care of your bills. Unfortunately, so the world doesn't stop, and that's a sad matter, but that's just where we're at today. So I really just tell people please get that stability stability so you don't be stressing out and right, and then continue to grow because during that process, you will be learning. You never know, you could learn something new that you can transfer into your side hustle that turns into that full-time opportunity. So just keep that stability in mind, is what I really would like to say. That I kind of sacrificed, was like, nah, dang it.
SPEAKER_04:You know, going to entrepreneurship, so young, my mother will always tell me, Miranda, just remember, do whatever you want. Stable money, stable bills. So if you you can do whatever you want, but right there, you gotta make sure. So even if that's a$9,$10,$15, whatever it is, for those stable bills that constantly hit every month, you make sure you have stable money for it.
SPEAKER_05:Right.
SPEAKER_04:And then all the other things come with it. And I've always kind of looked at that as you know, even as I built my business, and and I don't know how many entrepreneurs do this, but I always put myself on a payroll. I never just took 100% of my business. It didn't matter how much income I was coming in, I always put myself on a payroll. Right. And I gave myself annual raises, just like, you know, I didn't grow up in corporate, but I paid attention to corporate. You know, I didn't have that, you know, people around me. No one in my family was an entrepreneur either. So I didn't have anybody really to look at. The only thing I really could look at was corporate because when I was growing up, the entrepreneurs were the nail tags, the tax lady, the guy on the street, the dope. Anyway, but he was an entrepreneur to me. So that guy for me, I actually, I can say this on the show, learned a lot of my tools and gifts of entrepreneurship through a lot of men who what you call the street guy. Yeah. Um, they taught me a lot about business, how people think, how to pay attention, mannerisms, everything to how to read someone's energy, how to know when somebody's playing with your money, you know, and I was like, oh, okay, I see that. They are playing with my money, you know, and how somebody's just not not being authentic to you. I that's where I learned a lot of um, you know, how to, I think that's why put me in a lot of male-dominated roles because I saw that. However, I also saw with the sacrifices and things that um I definitely don't want to make again. Um, I sacrificed me. I was really good at building other people up and their ideas, and I was like, tell me about your ideas. Oh, let's do it. And I would have an idea too, and I didn't really hold them the same way accountable to support me and my ideas. So I that was a big sacrifice that I that I made for many years, where I would build the hell out of somebody's business, okay? And then when it came to my own, I just was like, okay, yeah, you know, I'm making money, I'm doing good. You know, that's okay, people support me, you busy, you know, no, that's not fair, right? And now I'm pushing back. Oh, you're gonna you gonna be you're gonna get behind me.
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SPEAKER_04:So, what's the sacrifice that you don't you didn't mind?
SPEAKER_03:Oh, the sacrifice I did not mind was man. I would have to say just saying, hey, it Is what it is, let me just show up and let's let's just see what happens. And what that what I mean by that is that I sacrifice, okay, instead of you know, maybe going to a lounge or something like that with friends and kicking it or events, I said, you know what, I want to go to a networking event, or I want to be over here, or let me just stay home and finish working and just grind because I know it's going to go somewhere and it's going to pay off. Yeah. And if you're my friends, we I mean, at this point, I joke around and say, hey, we'd be great, pen pals, but just keep texting and we continue to talk on the phone. Okay. I got you finishing my get like a little space, but you know, FaceTime and whatnot. But right now I'm building. Yeah. And I have to get started now because in the past I was hesitant, not saying I was fearful, but it was just more of like, I know I can do this, but but why do I feel as though it's me? Like no one else is doing this. I have to be the executor. Okay, well, let me focus, figure this out, and then just start growing. Once I get comfortable, then it's like, you guys, let's continue to hang out with that. But I'm not going to let go of my friendship. It's just more of like, hey, I just can't show up right here because I want to build here. But in the meantime, let's call, let's text, let's FaceTime, let's still, you know, keep that bond. It's just that I have to spend money over here so I can continue to grow. And over here is very expensive, y'all. Like, it's kind of expensive. Um, so I would just say it's just really the sacrifice of just saying, I have to cut back and I'm okay with cutting back because I know where I'm going to go. I love that.
SPEAKER_04:And a good friend is fine with it.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Matter of fact, she's telling you to stay your behind home and focus. A good friend is. So let's talk about something I feel like, especially as black women, yeah, women in general, but women in general for sure, but even more as black women, because there's a lot of things that run through our um genetics, DNA, and I want to be careful with that because sometimes we recipes also run in our family. But um about let's talk about our health. Yeah. So, what do you do uh spiritually, mentally, physically to keep yourself in line so that you can you look amazing, number one, and that you can continue this growth.
SPEAKER_03:Well, first of all, it's like looking in the mirror as far as like looking good, you know. I was trying to like, never mind. So uh of course I am a believer and I do pray, you know, ask God to keep my health and just you know, um my mental health as well too. But I'm a walker, okay. Even though I ran track for 12 years and was a sprinter, I am that those are my glory days. I am an avid walker, so I will honestly go for three hours. I will walk one way for an hour and a half and then walk back. And during that time is when I just breathe, I think, and a lot of times I go uh walking at night so I can look at the moon and feel the breeze, but that just allows me to really focus on my health, focus on my mental health as well too. And I just try to be mindful of what I eat as well too, like you know, more fruits and and and just nuts as well too, granola bars. Like I just try to just really focus on that because um it's just important, it's important. And even in my family history, we have a history of orarian cancer, so that's something that I also have to stay on top of as well, too. And um, if I can just start now while I'm young and you know, feeling fresh, right? I just feel as though that's that's just what's been working for me. And I highly recommend others to just be mindful, no matter the age, just be mindful and do something that gets your mind off of things and you know, focus on your health as well, too. Find something that you like.
SPEAKER_04:I agree with that, I really like that. It's the same. Um, I have family who had sales with diabetes and blood pressure. Uh, mine is I can't be petty, I can't match energy, I cannot do things that don't they have to, my spirit has to agree with it because I have to stay in a place of peace. And if that if there's something that you know is aggravating or is making me feel amped, of course I have to be mindful about my eating, but I have to be mindful about my energy. And the more mindful I am about my energy, that plays into my work life, it plays into my family life because I do recognize how I take care of myself. If I'm like you said, I love walking as well. If I'm working, mine's planking. Everybody knows I love to plank. People know me, they love I'm a planker. Um, planking is for me is a way of meditation, it's a very control, it's a way of just understanding that you are at your core in all things, but it does play in how I show up in my marriage, how I show up, if I'm gonna be aggravated when I come home. Everything shows up. So if I want to be petty with people, if I want to, I'm gonna match you with what you did to me. If I do that, I will most likely also do that at home, or I'm already doing that at home. So for me, it's being very conscious about that. And I also feel like this I'm pretty happy. Yeah, I don't really know what I mean. Like, you know, if things have been good and it's not perfect, it's not perfect. I have gone through the trials, okay? But I'm good enough to recognize that I do not need to be inconsiderate of my health and my space and allow somebody else then to harm me in a way that is not productive, you know. So yeah, for me, it's that's how I I think all that ties into what you're saying and us together is that being health conscious, what you eat, what you're around, is it will play into what you eat, you know, who you're around, right? We'll play into all things.
SPEAKER_03:I truly adore respect and I love that because I feel as though that's something that a lot of people overlook. Yeah. You know, if you are petty and doing all of that stuff, it builds bitterness, it builds resentment, it builds those negative traits inside, which then starts to make you sour. And you walk around here sour, and now you have this mindset of anger, and it just it it's a buildup, and that doesn't feel good on the inside. It's funny, not too long ago, I was um reading um uh watching a YouTube channel of a pastor, and he was talking about be a peacemaker. Even if someone is just yawning, yawning, yawn and somebody you don't agree with, just nod and say, Okay, that's cool, and just go about your day. Because once you disturb your peace, I mean your peace of mind makes you to lose yourself.
SPEAKER_04:Right.
SPEAKER_03:And lose your mind, you're standing, and even there are people who worked hard to get to that point just for something to happen, they lose it, you know? Everything, right? Everything. So being that peacemaker really does require you to say, I'm not going to engage. I know who and what I want around me because I have experienced different energies, different circles, and all this other stuff to know that I I I prefer this, right? You know, and I can, you know, be an arm's length, but still show love, kindness, friendliness, of course. But I just, you know, take my time because my peace is important.
SPEAKER_04:Yes, I like that.
SPEAKER_03:Peace of mind is important.
SPEAKER_04:I like that. That's something I I told someone recently. We were they were wanting to argue, and I said, here's the thing. Are you wanting to argue for us to get to a point of healing? Or are you wanting to argue to prove a point? Because if you want to prove your point, we need to stop talking. Because I only will, and that's even in my marriage, it's in my kids, it's everything. We need to be having a conversation. And it can be upset, you can you can yell, you can get upset, but it needs to be for the betterment of what we're supposed to be doing. And that brings me to something that we haven't touched on. We talked a little bit about the younger generation, um, and you know, we're talking about how healing and health. What is one thing you feel like should be in the grade school system right now that you think that would help young women entrepreneurs who might be the next president? If you were to pick one class topic, what would your class topic be?
SPEAKER_03:Oh, I would say I'm kind of torn, but I would just between emotional intelligence and communication. And I say that's because you're gonna come across people. People are everywhere, everywhere. Networking, that's the biggest word now, networking, but you need to know how to just be okay to say, let's just have a conversation. How was your day? Oh, what do you like to do for fun? I realize a lot of people find that very hard to do nowadays, you know? Um, and it's like you're coming across people. Like I understand, you know, we're in there introverts, they're shyness and whatnot, but how do you get a chance to grow um yourself and being able to articulate how you feel and being able to say, you know, this bothers me if you don't put yourself out there and just start talking to people and start and having those conversations. So I really would say uh just really communication, you know, practice communication, practice how to um, you know, writing cursive and all this stuff. Like I just like going back to cursive, hey, oh I'm old fashioned, honestly, you guys. But um, you know, people are everywhere. We need to learn how to adapt to those who didn't grow up like us, adapt to those who are having different uh perspectives, those with uh different abilities as well, too. You know, we need to really just understand people are always going to be around us, and you're gonna come across different people.
SPEAKER_04:Right.
SPEAKER_03:Being able to just understand and just communicate, I think that's what we're missing because we're so tied to our social media and just making us that that only making that that only silo, you know.
SPEAKER_04:Okay. The class would be simple and sweet for me, unbox me. That would be my class assignment. It would be walking in and everything has there are no boxes. You're learning how to be unique, set apart, be different. Uh, you come in as you are, you walk in, and there's no struct no social structures. Everything is about show tell me who you are and tell me why you think that way. And and no one gets to come in and change your mind. They you just listening. It's all just listening about different perspectives. And that class will just be called unbox me. Like just let me, just let me be me. Um, I think that's what's missing is people just being able to just be simply themselves. Um in in a in a healthy manner that is that is a uh within a a growth way. Not just okay, unbox me and then you just we're almost to the end here. I know. I feel like this is good, right? This is this is great conversation. Okay, how much we have I'm gonna I'm gonna end with something that I feel like is kind of a hot topic right now. What do you bring to the table in man? No, I'm sorry. Um does marriage is marriage needed? Is man, woman, whatever you subscribe to, I'll be a personal situation. Um, does that complete you? Is that a completion part of your legacy?
SPEAKER_03:For me, I believe it is only because I can't be a leader my entire life. Like, I can't do everything.
SPEAKER_04:You want to tell them why?
SPEAKER_03:Listen, I try and um and and I just feel as though that's just something that should be a part of my legacy. And you know, that's where, even though I'm a single woman, that's where I've been trying to think to myself, well, what do I want in a guy when I'm dating? You know, and I looked at now, and this is something I want you to answer for me too, to see if I'm heading in the right direction. But I truly believe in alignment and purpose. I know I'm working, I'm walking in my purpose, right? And I'm just trying to think, okay, does the guy have where my weakness is at? And that could be like his profession is somewhere where I'm like, oh, I'm still working on it or something like that. But because we're still in the same kind of alignment or purpose, it it falls into place. So, you know, I just that's where I'm just been trying to look because I feel as though that's just how it should be based on alignment, purpose. And of course, all the attributes, like they're attractive and they're funny, correct, charismatic, and chemistry and all that stuff. But imagine having someone who can also build with you to build this legacy in longevity.
SPEAKER_04:So that's such that's a loaded one. Um, I'm gonna try my best to answer that quickly. Okay. Okay. So I remember someone telling me a while back that when you have a child, whatever type of child you have, whether if you believe in astrology or not, so whatever sign they are, that's usually something that you needed in your life. So if you're a Libra and you have give birth to a Scorpio, there's some organizational skills that you needed in your life. And I feel like that's kind of the same thing when it comes to partnership and marriage or any type of partnership, that it's usually something you don't even recognize that you need. My me and my husband are not the same. I'm loud, I'm jokey, I am wild, I am, you know, I'm outside, you know, he's inside, he's quiet, but he is reading the rooms for me. Yeah, he's paying attention to what I'm not paying attention to. I didn't know to ask for those things. I thought I needed somebody who would match my energy. And the truth is he does in a more supportive, protective way.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Um, so that question I think is it is a really hard one to add to answer. I don't think it looks like what you might think it looks like. And I think it's like just having somebody who is who is your your supportive partner, right? But also doesn't for you doesn't need you by their hip all the time and it still feels safe with you.
SPEAKER_03:Right.
SPEAKER_04:That's what I know I needed. Like you don't, I I can still go out with my girls and you don't feel a certain type of way. Because you are out, you have to go and you have to do things. So I feel like you need somebody who is capable of being with Yasmin.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:That's it. You know what I mean? Not not with the world, just Yasmin and Miranda needs somebody for her. So, and I agree. Uh for me, I mean, I can't say that my legacy is to be in a marriage. I can say that I enjoy my current marriage. But whatever that is, whatever my journey looks like, I'm okay with that too. Um, at the end of the day, just like you, I'm purpose-driven. Yeah. So whatever God's purpose is for my life, that's more my focal point. Um, I I love having what I call my knight, my husband, my knight with me as I do those things because he is my protector. He's he will cut you if you try to touch me. Um outside of that, you know, I I feel like whatever that looks like for you, good. As long as it's sweet.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:You know, as long as it's sweet, it's good. That this was good. I I feel like this is a different topic. This is a whole nother show. But we'll get into this a whole nother show. Definitely in closing. So what's next? What's next for you, Yulet Legacy? What do you what are you what else is going on for you? How do you see us moving forward and accomplishing the next woman president?
SPEAKER_03:Who I see us moving forward by just being authentic and also just being fearful. I mean fearless, you know. Um, we should just say, do it, and your legacy is really just, you know, you're you're you're next, you know, literally, like your kids, the grandkids, and in the future. And if you don't want kids, you know, your nieces, your nephew, it's just that legacy. And it's funny enough because a long time ago, something was pointing out to me that I was reading um uh in the Bible and just also listening to a pastor, but it was saying, like, your last name is your legacy too, you know. So also pay attention to your name and how you can utilize that for longevity because a lot of these big brands are last names. If you look at Rihanna Fenty, you know, you look at Mirajo, exactly. If you look at Hennessy, Carnegie, you look at all of these big names, and they are that last name. So, you know, so figure out, you know, what in your name can you just say this is going to be long term, and this is what's going to allow people to remember me. And it doesn't even have to be business or you know, it has to be this grand material things of money. It could even be just a respect, you being respectable in the community, you saying, Hey, that person right there, they are an honest person. That person right there, the kids love them, you know. So for me, my legacy is really just making sure that people remember me as someone who is honest, and then also someone who said, Hey, she did not give up, regardless, because I feel as though I have made public mistakes, but also showed, hey man, she she bounced back from that. So I just want to show like it's okay, you're gonna make mistakes. It you might, you know, be embarrassed, but it's okay. It's move on to the next day and just say, hey, I'm going to do better. And then people will see that. People are always watching, but they will respect that you said I got up. And that's just where I want to be remembered as my legacy and just keep, you know, my dad's name and honor and just keep going from there.
SPEAKER_04:You know what? In the spirit of every black person in the world, I will not one-up you in that conversation. That was good enough. Because you know, we like to one-up each other, but that was good. I'm gonna leave it right there. Mic drop is done. Keep it in the last name. Let's keep building. It was so great to be with you, Yasmeen. Um, again, I appreciate you. I'm the host, Miranda Johnson. Or again, this is with CMC Media. Advocacy women panel. If a woman was president, we're here to respond potentially president, please.
SPEAKER_01:Hi friends, my name is Jennifer Eddie, your host of the Call Light Collective. Be sure to tune in to Comfort Measures Media on YouTube, as well as check out any of your other favorite podcast platforms for the Call Light Collective, as well as Comfort Measures Media.
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